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gondobackupDisclaimer: Don't worry if this doesn't quite jive or make sense to you, it's all purely academic to explain how it's working backstage. Just keep playing how you have. No character doubles will come into play without permission from a player.
Potted version:
On the nature of the timestream in this game:
As you've seen, with the death of Eol, the future of Gondolin has definitely been changed. What does this mean for characters? Will Elladan cease to exist if Luthien never meets Beren, or Idril marries Gelgannel instead?
What does it mean about people from two different but nearly identical timelines co-existing like Idis and Theodred?
What about people like Daeron/Luthien/All the Feanorians being around while they should also be existing elsewhere?
Well, I like seeing the characters speculate, so don't let them see this entry.
First off, we need to decide who are appearing in Gondolin. Are they they the original people? Or are they disharmonic copies of themselves, while the real versions live out back home? They aren't, I just felt like throwing that out there.
The real people are what are appearing, and obviously their futures change from the moment of their appearance in Gondolin. Barring the chance that when the cosmic horror is solved, the world instantly resets as it once was. BUT I GUESS YOU GUYS WILL HAVE TO WORRY ABOUT THAT WHEN THAT TIME COMES.
Anyway. I've been doing/planning things to do 'the future is definitely different'. From killing Eol, to planning a permanent injury to a character where he's uninjured in the future we know, bits and pieces of 'this is different, this is changed'.
My idea is that that each person is safe from their own timeline. Even if their past (Gondolin, ancestors) is altered, it isn't in their particular timeline. This is how two different versions of someone could even exist in Gondolin.
That is to say, while this Theoden will never become the King Theoden from the books (though I try to keep his traits intact, trust, forgiveness, and family), that Theoden still exists, in his own original timeline, as the two timelines have diverged. In Gondo!Theoden's timeline, he is gone. He has literally vanished. In original timeline, he's probably making out with Elfhild.
Same as we have unpublished characters (Arakano from the notes) and the potential for others, like Rog and Salgant (Gondolin nobles. Rog was like the strongest elf, and Salgant was fat. Think about them), their timeline exists and they're from it.
For the final question, the answer is yes. There is a Daeron out there that's never betrayed Luthien, and a Maglor who hasn't adopted Elrond and Elros yet. Another Luthien. If Maglor went out to seek himself, he would find the original timeline version.
What happens when you meet? Makeouts. Or whatever, just no exploding on contact.
Potted version:
'You all come from your own timeline and nothing done in the past will affect you. As well, you may be existing concurrently with the version of you that was already here.'
On the nature of the timestream in this game:
As you've seen, with the death of Eol, the future of Gondolin has definitely been changed. What does this mean for characters? Will Elladan cease to exist if Luthien never meets Beren, or Idril marries Gelgannel instead?
What does it mean about people from two different but nearly identical timelines co-existing like Idis and Theodred?
What about people like Daeron/Luthien/All the Feanorians being around while they should also be existing elsewhere?
Well, I like seeing the characters speculate, so don't let them see this entry.
First off, we need to decide who are appearing in Gondolin. Are they they the original people? Or are they disharmonic copies of themselves, while the real versions live out back home? They aren't, I just felt like throwing that out there.
The real people are what are appearing, and obviously their futures change from the moment of their appearance in Gondolin. Barring the chance that when the cosmic horror is solved, the world instantly resets as it once was. BUT I GUESS YOU GUYS WILL HAVE TO WORRY ABOUT THAT WHEN THAT TIME COMES.
Anyway. I've been doing/planning things to do 'the future is definitely different'. From killing Eol, to planning a permanent injury to a character where he's uninjured in the future we know, bits and pieces of 'this is different, this is changed'.
My idea is that that each person is safe from their own timeline. Even if their past (Gondolin, ancestors) is altered, it isn't in their particular timeline. This is how two different versions of someone could even exist in Gondolin.
That is to say, while this Theoden will never become the King Theoden from the books (though I try to keep his traits intact, trust, forgiveness, and family), that Theoden still exists, in his own original timeline, as the two timelines have diverged. In Gondo!Theoden's timeline, he is gone. He has literally vanished. In original timeline, he's probably making out with Elfhild.
Same as we have unpublished characters (Arakano from the notes) and the potential for others, like Rog and Salgant (Gondolin nobles. Rog was like the strongest elf, and Salgant was fat. Think about them), their timeline exists and they're from it.
For the final question, the answer is yes. There is a Daeron out there that's never betrayed Luthien, and a Maglor who hasn't adopted Elrond and Elros yet. Another Luthien. If Maglor went out to seek himself, he would find the original timeline version.
What happens when you meet? Makeouts. Or whatever, just no exploding on contact.