Question about how we wanna play this re: Marriage, elf sex

[crantz]

Theo: at least you didn't lead me on to the point we got married, Fingon
Fingon: Yeah really
Fingon: How ARE we working elf marriages here?
Fingon: I mean like...*looks at John*
Fingon: Cause I sort of feel bad because technically I DID marry Theo

The discussion then veered to precedent via Celegorm and Ecthelion very much not being married. How do we wanna work with canon/what we've done?

ALSO, the userinfo does say that we prefer no rape plots, but it reminds me of how Tolkien said that rape=death for elfs, do we wanna keep that in?

Comments

[unsuitenedt]

Just saying, if you're going by Laws & Customs, it says "...it was at all times lawful for any of the Eldar, both being unwed, to marry [by bodily union] of free consent one to another without ceremony or witness save blessings exchanged and the naming of the Name..."

So, I read that as you could have sex without being married so long as you didn't do the marriage blessings and naming of Eru. ;) ;)

[silver_trails]

And that was meant for Elves, I think.

[unsuitenedt]

True, the Eldar. Technically it does not even apply to the Avarin elves! :)

[silver_trails]

So unless Theo has turned into an Elf while having sex, they can't be married, can they?

[crantz]

Oh yeah, Theo's marriage status is safe on account of being a human.

[silver_trails]

So if the Elves don't say their vows and call upon Eru as witness, they are not married.

[snacky]

Yeah, I agree with this.

I think it might work also that if we play it like, culturally, the elves like ceremonies for their marriage as Mochi said.

As for rape, if that is played out, I have to agree with Jess and Mochi - I'd prefer not to have it go as rape=death.